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Episode 12

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Can Quantum Computing Tame AI? Mark Reid Davis on Security

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Bill Canady sits down with Mark Reid Davis, Chairman and CEO of Quanta Dome, to discuss quantum computing, cybersecurity, critical infrastructure, the Golden Dome and the path from highly specialized systems to potential middle-market applications.

Mark explains his vision for Quanta Diplomacy, Quanta Dome and the portable Quanta Qube interface, while Bill presses him on the practical questions: What is quantum meant to solve? How would it connect to a business? What does it cost? Where could the ROI come from? And what should an early adopter do next?

The conversation explores:

  • The differences between classical computing, AI and quantum computing
  • AI-enabled cybersecurity threats and human oversight
  • The portable Quanta Qube interface
  • Potential applications in energy, healthcare, agriculture, supply chains and defense
  • Cost, cooling, deployment and subsidy considerations
  • What middle-market CEOs should evaluate before investing
  • Mark’s concept of “quantum management”

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Please contact the Quanta Dome team above for insight around proprietary technology, government quantum subsidy programs, threat volumes, deployment timelines, and future quantum connectivity for the middle market. Quanta Dome can provide you with detailed information to support your business.

Four takeaways

  1. Don’t fight AI with more AI. Davis’s central argument is that a defensive AI is the same shape as the thing attacking you, and it loses. The interesting question for a CEO is not which AI to buy, but whether anything in the stack has a human being structurally required in the loop.
  2. “Quantum always requires human interface and human guidance.” That, not the physics, is the claim a CEO can actually evaluate — and it is the reason Davis thinks quantum ages better than a technology that is now writing itself.
  3. Cost is the whole adoption story, and it hasn’t broken yet. An $80–110 million machine with a cooling problem is not a middle-market product. The only honest middle-market question is when access becomes a subscription — Davis’s own target is $5,000–10,000 a month, and it is a target, not a price list.
  4. The next 90 days are free. Bill pushes for the practical first step and it costs nothing: read the primary sources, understand the trend line, and only then decide whether a pilot conversation is worth your time. Nobody in the middle market needs to be buying quantum hardware this year.

“Quantum always requires human interface and human guidance.”

— Mark Reid Davis, Chairman and CEO, Quanta Dome

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[00:02] A thousand days. That’s enough time to transform a company, but not enough time to waste. Welcome to The 1000-Day CEO, the podcast about decisive leadership, sustainable growth, and building a business that thrives beyond any one leader. Your host is Bill Canady. Let’s make every day count. >> Hello everyone. It’s Bill Canady with The 1000-Day CEO podcast. It’s great to be here with you today. We have Mark Reid Davis. Maybe a little bit about Mark to start off with. Mark grew up in uh on a farm in South Carolina. At the age of 15, he began working with the national security and diplomacy matters in the quantum computing space. He’s the inventor of the Quanta Dome and that is value added reseller to the American and British quantum technique supporting the golden dome and he holds the patent for nationwide desktop quantum computing the Quanta Qube. He is the president of Quanta Diplomacy which distributes media, education, and quantum subsidies to middle market companies and family offices. Mark holds a triple doctorate from Oxford University in politics, economics, and ciphers with a focus on secure quantum key distribution. His goal over the next 10 years is to ensure every home in the United States and the United Kingdom have access to quantum security. Mark, it’s great to have you on the show today. want to welcome you and and thank you for joining us. >> Thanks, Bill. Thanks for encouraging entrepreneurs across the country. >> Folks, today we’ve got questions about quantum computing, how it’s going to affect middle market companies and help protect this great nation of ours. Mark is here. So, Mark, you we had a chance to check chat backstage. I thought I’d start with this question. So, you describe the culmination of 33 years of work. What did you see before the rest of the market saw saw it? And what kept you going? >> I started with quantum computing in the Clinton administration when I I got to work with Tony Blair, Bill Clinton,

[02:03] Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Ted Kennedy, John Warner, and other senators to look at the way that the appropriations and armed services and national security committees appropriated funds for quantum technology. And I saw a great opportunity to work with a science and a technology that had been in place since 1926, but that people were sort of afraid of because they were accustomed to classical computers that had really started in 1983 and 1984. And so I was fortunate I got to work on the novel aspects of quantum computing with the United States and 56 of our allies over the last 33 years and discover ways that we would be able to make sure that the American and British people are able to cohesively roll out quantum computers in each home and each family office throughout both countries. >> Holy cow. Well, I tell you when you look at it today, what problem do you think that uh the Quanta Dome solves today that a conventional computer or can’t get after? How does this make a difference for us? bring this to the average business owner how this is going to make an impact on them and what’s >> Yeah, I mean there are aspects of the Golden Dome which is the defense technology utilized to protect the United States and our allies and the Quanta Dome that are very novel because they are starting out to be used as a response to AI malware. And so the real problem that is pushing quantum forward is actually we had three years ago 50,000 attacks per year and this year we had well over 500,000 AI malware attacks and the only type of computer that’s strong enough to deal with an autonomous AI or an autonomous robot like a

[04:03] slaughterbot from one of our adversaries is the quantum computer. And so what we’re able to solve today are niche issues in health, defense, armed services, governance, consumer goods, farming, and irrigation, as well as nuclear power. We’re able to focus in with quantum computers on very specific needs within the AI malware space. And then we’re able to grow out of that and to impact larger um groups of people in a positive way by preventing AI mishaps from happening. I don’t think that we knew in 2000 even when I graduated from college that we were going to have such a rapid response to AI. And so the only type of computing that would be able to heal the mistakes that we have with classical computing is is for us to work with quantum computers to fix those problems. >> Is there a real difference between qu quantum computer and cyber security? Is it kind of one and the same? Are they supportive? What’s what’s really the difference? How should we think about it? Well, cyber is more for example around enterprise resource planning like SAP and Oracle do uh cyber security and custom enterprise resource planning tools do that there isn’t part of AI that has a defense and security component and that is called you know generative AGI and those are very strong but the problem is is that we found in the past 30 days that AI is creating itself And it’s, you know, it’s attacking itself and attacking other branches like our waterways, our irrigation. An article is going to come out from my foundation. It’s going to talk about our supply chain because we found that AI assaults the supply chain. So what classical computing and AI have in common is they they are binary in their thinking. It’s us versus them. So

[06:03] they have to have something to attack to move forward in order to compete. Whereas quantum computing can holistically think about a 360 and it can actually correct the the thinking boxes if you would of an ERP or or an AI and so it can put it back on its normal course. So my dream back to your first question is that every household in America, every family office, every small business, every middle market business will have a Qube which I’ve designed and they can plug into the Quanta Dome and they will be able to have access to what’s called quantum information which provides that holistic information in order to provide security and efficiency to the businesses at home. That’s that’s the goal. So it’ll be like a computer sitting on their desk or in their data center or whatever and will that be casting kind of a net over their network to keep out the bad actors or will it be basically repairing their system? How will that work? >> Well, we’ve designed 119 citadels, directorates and network syndicates that connect with the interface. And so essentially the citadels will all be in the United States and England and they will be the six focus areas and then the other 113 locations will have urban centers for quantum computers and then they will have supporting syndicates that are training facilities for the quantum computer. And so every family might not want to spend between, you know, 80 and $110 million on a quantum computer. If you’ve got if you if if you have a a city of 18 million people and they want to connect with the quantum computer and have the same information. The beauty of quantum computers is they can be sectioned because they’re so powerful. They are powered by what’s called qubits. And those qubits allow for the technology to be put into

[08:05] specific areas whether that’s a health and life science location for say Boston Scientific or for a nuclear power group like Duke Power or for an agricultural consumer goods company that works with Trader Joe’s and Aldi. So we can protect the supply chain and we can protect the defense and the security all from the same device. But what the Quanta Qube interface does is it plugs into the larger body of information and holistically corrects the AI malware misfunctions so that security is provided throughout the nation. When I first heard about quantum computer, which was years ago, it was kind of the AI before AI as we know it today. And then today we look at it and AI, you know, it’s big in the media. We’re all talking about it. We’re all spending a lot of money on it for sure. But the idea is is quantum do the same thing? Is this a thinking or learning type tool? Like how will it stay ahead of AI or vice versa? What what what’s driving each one of these tools and how will it win if you will? >> Well, AI is not humanpowered anymore. As of the last 30 days, we’ve lost control of it and it is doing its own thinking. It may delete this interface that you and I are on, but Bill, it is a a a weak but stable tool. And so I believe that AI is going to go bust. And the reason is is it’s going to start to selfdefeat itself. Whereas quantum always requires human interface and human guidance. And that that will allow for quantum to be more stable. But right now, the biggest issue that we’ve had with quantum and the reason there’s such a hefty cost is the cooling of it. Because the cooling devices for the computer, which looks like a chandelier, and data storage for it are so vast and huge that it is

[10:06] really difficult to maintain the cool temperatures. But we’ve had amazing things that I never thought would thought would happen in my lifetime that are keeping our technology cool. We’ve got new chips. We have new ways of managing the quantum computer with the interface. I could show you one of my Qubes right now if you want to see it. >> Man, I’d love to see that. >> So, this is the Qube backpack. It’s about the size of my left torso. This is how we share it with our clients. We have it packaged right now so it doesn’t get damaged. So, this is what it looks like. And it it’s meant to help the quantum computer which is normally like the size of my office and my flat in DC plus maybe the farm where I do my training. It’s normally that large. But what this does is it simplifies the interface of the quantum computer so that the human be and or human beings that are getting the data or quantum information from it can do so cohesively. So we designed this about 6 months ago and have been trying it out in the field. >> So So when you say interface, is that for lack of a better term kind of the gateway? Like you plug your computer, you plug it into your network and that gets the information to the quantum computer. Is that what that means? >> Yeah. Like my clients right now are, you know, they’re very large multinational companies, but I I know that the real change for America is whether a a family a family office, a family business will have access to that technology. So putting the standard operations together for the quantum computer is something I’ve specialized in in the last 30 years. But my interest is being able to make sure that every family in the United Kingdom and the United States has access so that they can tap in. For the podcast today, I tried a couple of products that I use with like other

[12:06] federal things and I wasn’t able to log in. So, I found this Google device that one of my board members gave for me just for instances like this. And that’s exactly this Qube is the same size as this Google computer. And I I hope within the next 10 years, I’m 48 years old. So, by the time I’m 58, I want it to be at the same cost as this Google computer, like $1,200. so that a person and a family that wants to learn, students that want to learn, they’ll be able to access the information. So, it’s a it’s a big drain considering the current cost that we have. But I believe that, you know, as we see AI kind of start to explode and then pop or bust, there will be a lot more affordability for us to be able to manage data information securely through quantum that we we might miss out on in AGI. But, you know, AI is the thing that’s in vogue. I’m I’m not saying that quantum is quite there yet, but it would be nice for us to, you know, see a see that that AI can’t become so rapid and so prolific that it becomes uncontrollable in the midst of humanity and other problems like nuclear proliferation, sharing resources, conflicts, all of these things can be addressed in in a way with quantum computing because quantum computing is six-dimensional and the world that you and I are used to working in is three-dimensional. So, it’s another realm of of connection and fixing problems. >> So, you showed and that was that the Quanta Qube you showed us or is that the gateway? >> Well, that’s the Quanta Qube. The gateway is a thing called tackling. So tackling is a device that we are perfecting with the government and uh that’s my present to myself is to get a

[14:07] sophisticated business partner to help me with the tackling and so that would allow for families within a certain circumference like 45 miles of the tackling device to be able to use the Qube for for the interface. So that’s an important distinction and I’m going to change the way I talk about it because you clarified that for me is that the the the Qube is the device that sits at the house for the family to use but the interface is actually our invention in the tackling space which connects that to the quantum computer. So you showed us the you know your prototype here how many how many are operating out there today? uh you know what how much workload is it carrying on? Is it is it performing to what you thought it would be? Where are you at in that journey? >> Yeah, I mean it there are 47 builds that I’ve done in 30 years, 33 years. They’re all working at military installations in the United Kingdom and the United States. I do have permission with some of our allies to apply the same technology if we use American parts and British parts to apply that to other countries this year for the first time. And there are seven of those. And I’ve got nine federal builds. So it’s 16. So my average has been between maybe two and six buildouts throughout my life. And you could say it’s doubled. And that’s why I need a business partner who is skilled to like manage those operations with me so that I can focus more on these types of conversations to educate people around thought leadership and the use of the technology and he can help with the tackling and the implementation for the American people in the field. >> Who’s typically the economic buyer of these? Is it the governments or have you sold any industry or business yet? Uh historically it’s federal governments. >> I would think so because you said the thing was you know $100 million or more

[16:09] uh for it. I you know the average business without outside the our budget. >> Yeah. So there’s I have a list I’ve been able to to assess the 500,000 hits in the United States. 50,000 and now just 3 years later 500,000. They’re primarily in nuclear power, irrigation, hospital systems, federal government agencies, and federal governance. There, to my knowledge, have been less hits in the state level. So, my primary focus has been with the Air Force and with the federal government because that’s where we’ve had the biggest attacks. But those other three or four areas that I just mentioned are are hot on you know now and we have rebranded to focus on the quantum security component because we again we didn’t expect AI to malfunction so soon. Well, I know I read in the news, I think it was OpenAI and others that the their chat bots have started, you know, kind of getting outside the businesses, starting to run their own uh, you know, their own programs, if you will. Yeah, it’s a little scary uh when we start thinking about these things getting loose. Yeah, it’s scary, but we have an answer like we’ve had an answer since 1926. My grandmother October turns 100. She was born in 1926. I’ve always been fascinated with that year in American history as a year of great uh growth in terms of textiles, farming, soil conservation because I come from a farming family, nuclear power and the aspects of um quantum. I don’t know why humanity has certain technologies or commodities or things that are useful to us and sometimes we don’t tap into those until a hundred years later. But the beauty is is that it’s been there just as long as my grandmother has been

[18:10] there. And you know, she’s the most vivacious soul that I know. And I think quantum technology and science is the most vivacious science. So we have an answer, Bill, to what you’ve just mentioned with the AI malfunctions. We have an answer to correct it. We don’t have to take it out. We just have to redirect and and take control of it. And so that’s what the beauty of quantum does is that it it allows us to write those wrongs that are being done because you you don’t want to work for a business that’s governed by a technology. You want to run with a business that’s governed by humanity, right? >> Mhm. So do you see as quantum being the manager of AI in a sense to keep it within in the guard rails if you will? >> Yes, sir. So my companies are called quant with an a because that’s the plural form of quantum and I from this podcast I’m going to rebrand how I talk at the beginning of each section is quantum management because that’s exactly yeah that’s exactly what quantum does is together with human beings we can more effectively manage the AI malware problems and I keep going back to AI because that’s the major problem because if you think about it Our adversaries like China, Russia, Iran have used adversarial AI malware to cause complete complete havoc in our democracy and the same thing has happened in the UK and this is something that can be corrected and protected by quantum technology. How does uh quantum keep up with AI today? You got trillions of dollars going in infrastructure learning. They I’ve read that you know AI has already consumed the internet now they’re consuming each other uh you know to get more information off of which which is what causes some of the hallucinations. How is quantum going to stay ahead of that so it can keep AI in check or if

[20:11] you will keep it within the bounds of what we’re comfortable. >> Yeah. So quantum is six-dimensional and so it’s all places at once. It’s above, below, to the right, to the left, in front and behind. So quantum can corral like when we herd cattle, you know, we have to put the cattle in the right path so that it will go in for the injections so that we can keep the herd healthy. And that’s the same type of thing with with quantum. Now AI on the other hand is two and three-dimensional. The worst AIs are two-dimensional. they don’t really have the ability to work with a 3D plane and so they become bombastic and create a lot of havoc. The better ones are three-dimensional and they’re able to to think three-dimensional and expedite human work. The problem is is when an adversary gets a three-dimensional type of AI and they interface that with an android or a slaughterbot and then they create warfare and havoc that’s not like known to humankind. Then if you try to defend that with a secure AI, it’s not going to work. You’ve got to have a mainframe capability that’s six-dimensional that can address, isolate, and shut down the threat. And that’s what quantum does is it prevents malware from attacking the American people domestically and abroad. And that’s why I’ve dedicated my life to this type of technology is because I believe it’s the only way to secure the next generation of humanity in the United States and the United Kingdom. These are lofty goals that you know have major implication. Bringing it down a little bit to the typical listener of this podcast which is a business owner, CEO, things like that. How are they going to participate in this? It feels like given the size, the scope, the cost that it’s going to be at a at a global or national level, what does the the CEO today, what should he be thinking about

[22:12] using the 8020 principle? What 20% of his resources is he going to be changing and having to dedicate to this given he’s already spending a lot of money on AI? Well, I think out of the 20% it’s going to take a hefty investment up front to get the tackling the Qube and the dome working together. But I think that the beauty of that is if if the listener contacts me and my team, we have the ability to to work with subsidy programs um in the United States as long as the organization works in agreement with the US or British government and we’re able to deploy test models and prototypes in the quantum space. So your earlier question, Bill, was about who do I typically focus on particular groupings of people in six locations around the United States. So New York, Connecticut, and upstate New York, uh DC and West Virginia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and a spot in Gainesville, the area around Houston, Chicago, and Seattle. Those are areas where I’m starting to do tests with middle market companies. And as long as the organization was is within one or two hours, we can do tests together with the government of the quantum computer. That’s probably where we’ll be for the next 3 years. But once the test models are in place in the areas that we call our citadels, then we’ll be able to reach larger groups of people across the country and more rural locations, which would, you know, be something close to my heart because I grew up in the middle of the Blue Ridge Mountains on a cattle farm. So by the year 2029, we we will be able to roll out fully across the country. And for anybody that is a US or British citizen that needs access by the year 2031, we can expect from 2031 to 2036 for the

[24:16] interface to be available to to every citizen. >> So if you’re a middle market firm and you want to participate in this or even an individual, what does participation look like? What would you expect quantum computing to come in and do for your business or yourself? >> I think the the areas on the list that I I see the most with middle market companies are companies that are innovating in the technology, high-tech, farming, construction, irrigation, and power spaces and to a certain extent health and life sciences. And what typically is is novel about those companies is that they have the best in my experience patents in their particular niches. And so when I look at uh companies that really need the technology the most, their patents and their way of living is maybe in jeopardy because for some reason either a competitor or adversary has utilized AI in a way that’s kind of ripped that out from from under them. And so that would be an ideal way because our subsidy programs right now, we have a $91 billion subsidy program in the United States to help companies like that that have been hit by adversarial AI malware. And we we can certainly help them. One um customer that I’m looking at in the middle market space right now had their banking and their charge cards basically uh taken by a foreign a foreign entity and their their uh payroll wasn’t met because they were attacked by AI malware and their money was siphoned off to a foreign entity in another country. And so what we’re doing with them is talking with them about whether we can work with the US government to make that possible. I’m just now moving into the middle market. So I think the problems will be slightly more nuanced and custom. And so

[26:19] I’m willing to to work with business owners and CEOs to look at creative ways to have the funding and the support to tap into the quantum computer capabilities that are available to them. um because each one may be slightly different than the more MNC multinational corporation. So what you know KPI if you’re familiar with that term I’m a CEO I’m in a business in Houston you mentioned I’ I’ve been attacked I I certainly my businesses have been attacked all sensitive information got put out on a dark web you know there’s a cost associated that some feels like a black hole between trying to protect it you you can’t fill that hole in no matter what you do is it going to keep those bad actors away and then there’s a costbenefit ratio right if I’m spending $100 million it did not cost me $100 million to solve that issue, you know. So, how would the ROI present itself in a way that makes you think this is the way I want to do it? >> I mean, eventually where we will be is the the cost will be something like 5 to 10,000 a month. >> Mhm. >> To tap into the Quanta Dome security. So, it will be affordable to middle markets and homes. I don’t know what the cost will be right now to tap into that for the middle market amount. The the great thing about early adopters is that you get the security early and that you’re you’re protected from the AI malware uh for the long haul as well as the bad actors and and you’re doing it with federal support. So you’re you’re technically like a angel of the federal government at that point. Wow, that’s very interesting. Do you see that same opportunity in quantum physics or quantum computing? >> Yeah, the largest buyer of quantum technology and user of it has been the federal government for the past 20 years. >> Mhm. >> For the past 30 years, they’ve been starting in 1992 to ’96 they had the

[28:21] first novel concepts. The Golden Dome has quantum support technologically at the federal level, but the true the true benefit of it will be when all Americans have quantum technology throughout the country and it’s utilized as a way to provide security against the AI malware issues that we face and they are able to transparently see information. The the beauty about quantum is it provides transparent information that’s not biased. AI information is typically biased because it’s it it has a way of looking at information as us versus them. So that’s the big change or difference >> when you strip away the physics and the you know the government piece of it and all that. What should a a typical hundred million dollar CEO do in the next 90 180 one year? Uh what should they absolutely not spend any money on or pay any attention to? >> Well, what they can look at is we we have our Citadels media sources and our science available there. That’s a a way to look at the information and to begin to understand the trending that’s taking place. And then at quantadome.com we have um examples of the buildouts of the technology. And so by looking at those two resources that that are available today, the the CEO will be able to to garner what’s going on with the dome and what’s going on with the subsidy programs that we have. And then the next step is to reach out to me and the team and come up with a way for the business to be an early adopter and we can provide a tiered approach where we look at you know basic API information which is to stay like a breast of what’s going on with the technology and then we could look at um plugging in more with quantum and novel technology and then

[30:21] providing full security over time. I think that the key is is to recognize that we don’t have to deal with AI malware by using AI to try to fight AI. That we’ve got a better tool than that at this point. And that’s what is the the primary objective of my life’s work. >> What would be your perfect customer or perfect target to reach out to? Who is best suited to handle this today? somebody that wants to address an AI problem, that wants to work with me for maybe three years as a test, is willing to try out different technologies in the quantum space and is not afraid, you know, of of working with the federal government to have the technology made available. You know, this has been an amazing segment here today. I’ve learned so much about an area that I I you know candidly don’t don’t have a great depth of knowledge and I did take an opportunity to read up on you know what’s going on here and and today the AI and all the money going into that it’s kind of sucking all the air out of the room right so that’s where lots of resources are going a lot of people’s time and quantum computing and as you said put be the guard rails the manager for the AI to maybe keep us safe and and keep us focused on it but also be an enabler for future growth. So, you know, any last words, anything you’d like to to leave our listeners with that can help them as they run their businesses and their lives be more productive and and really take advantage of of this uh movement. >> Yeah, my my life’s work has been to make quantum computing available. U once the American people have the access that’s required to correct the AI malware wrongs, I’m going to be moving back into government. And I’ve just really enjoyed talking with you, Bill, because you’ve given me the ability to say things like quantum management. I think the the biggest thing is is that quantum computing is not something to be afraid of. It’s something that we have

[32:23] available to us as a tool to protect us from some of the scary things that we’re seeing happen. And it does require some grit and perspiration to work in this space. Typically, it takes about six weeks to deploy the technology in a way that’s sufficient for the middle market business, but I’m very dedicated to that and would love to have contact with folks that are want to be early adopters. >> You want to tell them one more time how to get a hold of you if they are interested in learning more? >> Sure. Our main federal line is [phone number withheld pending the guest’s written confirmation that it is intended for public distribution]. The uh best um email for me is [email protected] and I look forward to talking with you about um your interest in quantum and how I can support you. Well Mark, thank you so much for being with us today. It’s been an enlightening uh uh segment. I’ve learned more here than I have in a long time. I can’t thank you enough. Thank you again and it’s been a real pleasure. >> Thank you, Bill. >> Yes, sir. You’ve been listening to The 1000-Day CEO with Bill Canady. Follow the show for more decisive leadership, sustainable growth, and strategies that build enduring businesses. Until next time, make every day count.

Guest card

Mark Reid Davis grew up on a farm in South Carolina. At the age of 15, he began working with National Security and Diplomacy matters in the quantum computing space. He is the inventor of the Quanta Dome, a value-added reseller of American and British quantum techniques supporting the Golden Dome, and he holds the patent for a nationwide desktop quantum computer, the Quanta Qube. He is the President of Quanta Diplomacy Foundation, which distributes media, education and quantum subsidies to middle-market companies and family offices.

Mark holds a triple doctorate from Oxford University in politics, economics and ciphers, with a focus on secure quantum key code distribution. His goal over the next ten years is to ensure every home in the United States and United Kingdom has access to quantum security.

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